Pleiades Dance? - Indigenous Caribbean Network2024-03-28T20:08:54Zhttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/forum/topics/pleiades-dance?commentId=2030313%3AComment%3A108084&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFor Miguel and anyone else fo…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-02-27:2030313:Comment:1090162015-02-27T22:32:17.626ZNelson Kaoamarix Zayashttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/NelsonZayas
<p>For Miguel and anyone else following this thread. Here is the information from Charlevoix, 1761. All my citations about a Pleiades dance traces back to this book.</p>
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<p>...but the return of the Pleiades, which they call the kids, upon the horizon, is a general holiday observed ny the whole nation. They prepare for it, by shaking their matts, and beating their partitions. The men, then, form themselves into one battalion; and the women into another; and fall upon each other pretty…</p>
<p>For Miguel and anyone else following this thread. Here is the information from Charlevoix, 1761. All my citations about a Pleiades dance traces back to this book.</p>
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<p>...but the return of the Pleiades, which they call the kids, upon the horizon, is a general holiday observed ny the whole nation. They prepare for it, by shaking their matts, and beating their partitions. The men, then, form themselves into one battalion; and the women into another; and fall upon each other pretty seriously. It is a a diversion, if you please, but is a diversion fit only for barbarians. The boys and girls, likewise, exchange some cuffs, but merely for form-sake. These engagements are followed by races; and then, both parties mutually wish each other an accomplishment of all their wishes, and, above all things, success against their enemies. The feast always terminates in drunkeness.</p> Hahom. :)tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-02-03:2030313:Comment:1082842015-02-03T04:01:56.399ZJoanna 'Aya' Soto-Aviléshttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/JoannaSotoAviles
<p>Hahom. :)</p>
<p>Hahom. :)</p> I see it now Joanna. Articles…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-02-03:2030313:Comment:1081762015-02-03T02:32:40.926ZNelson Kaoamarix Zayashttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/NelsonZayas
<p>I see it now Joanna. Articles are on my laptop, will post everything I have tomorrow.</p>
<p>I see it now Joanna. Articles are on my laptop, will post everything I have tomorrow.</p> P.S.: Attached is the "Astro…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-02-02:2030313:Comment:1082822015-02-02T18:43:15.616ZJoanna 'Aya' Soto-Aviléshttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/JoannaSotoAviles
<p>P.S.: Attached is the "Astronomy in Taino Mythology" article by Sebastian Robiou-Lamarche, Archaeoastronomy, pp. 110-115, in case anyone in this discussion topic is interested. :)</p>
<p>P.S.: Attached is the "Astronomy in Taino Mythology" article by Sebastian Robiou-Lamarche, Archaeoastronomy, pp. 110-115, in case anyone in this discussion topic is interested. :)</p> Takahi Nelson,
I had the same…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-02-02:2030313:Comment:1082782015-02-02T18:29:20.156ZJoanna 'Aya' Soto-Aviléshttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/JoannaSotoAviles
<p>Takahi Nelson,</p>
<p>I had the same problem myself trying to figure out how to attach a document in a reply. I found out you can attach files (up to a limit of 5MB) by clicking where is says "Upload files" just below the reply window on the left hand side. Then you would click on the "Browse" button under 'Attach files" to attach your file. </p>
<p>Hope this helps. I, too, would like to see the articles and I am sure there are others who are interested as well. I find Taino…</p>
<p>Takahi Nelson,</p>
<p>I had the same problem myself trying to figure out how to attach a document in a reply. I found out you can attach files (up to a limit of 5MB) by clicking where is says "Upload files" just below the reply window on the left hand side. Then you would click on the "Browse" button under 'Attach files" to attach your file. </p>
<p>Hope this helps. I, too, would like to see the articles and I am sure there are others who are interested as well. I find Taino archeoastronomy to be a vastly interesting and fascinating subject. </p>
<p>Hahom, Atiao, for posting such an interesting discussion topic. </p>
<p>Seneko Kakona, <br/>Aya</p> I found your attachments and…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-01-29:2030313:Comment:1081742015-01-29T22:30:54.655ZMiguel Sague Jrhttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MiguelSobaokoKoromosague
<p>I found your attachments and I already downloaded them into my hard drive. I am eternally grateful! Bo matun!</p>
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<p>I found your attachments and I already downloaded them into my hard drive. I am eternally grateful! Bo matun!</p>
<p> </p> I did not see how to attach a…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-01-29:2030313:Comment:1081732015-01-29T14:44:51.758ZNelson Kaoamarix Zayashttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/NelsonZayas
<p>I did not see how to attach a document in a reply so I sent you 4 articles to your Yahoo account. When you get a moment, please confirm you received them. </p>
<p>I did not see how to attach a document in a reply so I sent you 4 articles to your Yahoo account. When you get a moment, please confirm you received them. </p> Astronomy was my first major…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-01-29:2030313:Comment:1080842015-01-29T02:12:02.945ZNelson Kaoamarix Zayashttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/NelsonZayas
<p>Astronomy was my first major in college back in 1980. I would be happy to work on an astronomy discussion meant to be done outdoors where the constellations can be shown to participants. I have a green laser I use which projects a green line up to whatever you point to in the sky (rather than just pointing with your fingers). I have even used the laser while looking through my telescope to find objects.</p>
<p>Later in the article author states" Among the neighboring Guaycurus, the heliacal…</p>
<p>Astronomy was my first major in college back in 1980. I would be happy to work on an astronomy discussion meant to be done outdoors where the constellations can be shown to participants. I have a green laser I use which projects a green line up to whatever you point to in the sky (rather than just pointing with your fingers). I have even used the laser while looking through my telescope to find objects.</p>
<p>Later in the article author states" Among the neighboring Guaycurus, the heliacal rising of the Pleiades initiated a long period of ritual festivities involving a mock fight between men and women". The citation is Charlevoix, 1761, Vol. 1:73</p>
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<p>Charlevoix, P.F.X. de Histoire du Paraguay, 3 vols, Paris, 1761.</p>
<p>I already checked Amazon and they have an English translation for Volume 1 (its in my cart)</p> I want you to know that this…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-01-28:2030313:Comment:1079872015-01-28T22:20:06.745ZMiguel Sague Jrhttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MiguelSobaokoKoromosague
<p>I want you to know that this is of enormous interest to me right now. I myself am in the process of preparing my own blog post on Taino astronomy and I am alert at this time for anything new in that field. Thank you for bringing up this topic.</p>
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<p>I want you to know that this is of enormous interest to me right now. I myself am in the process of preparing my own blog post on Taino astronomy and I am alert at this time for anything new in that field. Thank you for bringing up this topic.</p>
<p> </p> FYI. I was pleasantly surpris…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-01-28:2030313:Comment:1079862015-01-28T19:24:38.971ZNelson Kaoamarix Zayashttp://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/NelsonZayas
<p>FYI. I was pleasantly surprised that after contacting him (or her) directly, Fabiola Jara sent me a copy of the article: Arawak Constellations: In Search of the Manioc Stars in Tropical South America. A Bibliography Survey.</p>
<p>In the article it also states "The agricultural cycle opens with the heliacal rising of the Pleiades, announcing the start of the new year and the time to cut down the first trees"</p>
<p>This statement is not cited which may mean s/he is the source of that…</p>
<p>FYI. I was pleasantly surprised that after contacting him (or her) directly, Fabiola Jara sent me a copy of the article: Arawak Constellations: In Search of the Manioc Stars in Tropical South America. A Bibliography Survey.</p>
<p>In the article it also states "The agricultural cycle opens with the heliacal rising of the Pleiades, announcing the start of the new year and the time to cut down the first trees"</p>
<p>This statement is not cited which may mean s/he is the source of that statement based on their research. I am not done with the article. Will keep everyone posted</p>