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Just a caution, for those who need it;

Any sign of continued personal insults between members will lead to the banning of those persons. There seems to be a marked degeneration in the quality of discussion here, very much in contrast with the cheerful, constructive, and productive experiences that dominated early on.

As the person who initially set up this network, I cannot tolerate seeing it become another hate site for flamers. For those who are new here, show some respect please, don't rush to judge others who have been here for a good while, and you will be respected in turn.

If the only alternative to insults is silence, then please choose silence.

I personally detest having to write such a message to fellow adults, who may even be older than myself. Apologies to all those who were not involved in any conflict in this network, but who nonetheless read this message.

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Comment by adem medina cardona on January 22, 2009 at 3:42pm
with three new administrators i think it is time to put the issues of the past behind us and move toward a fresh start, welcoming new members and returning to the tasks of learning, sharing and growing. respectfully - c
Comment by Maximilian Forte on January 22, 2009 at 3:22pm
Ok, Danielle, what you just finished explaining is the same impression that I got, that you were learning, that this is what you read, etc., etc. -- and you will read that Caribs ate humans in a vast array of sources, many of them "respectable" and "scholarly" sources of considerable weight in academia. So it's not your fault if you believed this.

On the other hand, we must let this go in case any hard feelings are revived.
Comment by Danielle Campos on January 22, 2009 at 11:43am

I did not make the Caribes being cannibals comment to be insultive. I believed it to be fact, from information I have read. I apologize that it was hurtful to so many people, but it was done out of niavity, not to be mean spirited. You read how it went down, so you know very well that it wasn't malicious. Juan corrected me, and suggested I don't read Moya Pons when it comes to indigenous history. Since that occurred, I stand corrected. I am still learning many many things about indigenous people, and unfortunatly don't have access to the same information that indigenous people have. Educate me, yes, but please don't lable me as hateful.
Comment by Leni Maiz Guariche Rodriguez Sague on January 22, 2009 at 12:58am
Hello Max, My name is Leni Maiz Guariche. I am Miguel Sobaoko Koromo's wife. I would like to say that I am grateful for your work. I am not online very often but a website of this nature is important to all our brothers and sisters in terms of communicating in a peaceful and harmoneous way.
My husband has been keeping me informed on what I feel are important and neat and informative conversations. I think they are important and I would like to add my support.
Taino Ti
Comment by Maximilian Forte on January 21, 2009 at 3:15am
...incidentally, I never realized the awesome power that comes with promoting blog posts...apparently it's a power that corrupts absolutely.
Comment by Maximilian Forte on January 21, 2009 at 12:21am
Well it seems like one can't win here: if you are absent, it's your fault things happen as they do; if you step in, then you're wrong to make your presence felt.

Lose-lose situations are the results of unbalanced arguments and they really are not worth anyone's time.
Comment by Maximilian Forte on January 20, 2009 at 12:43pm
Rubén, attacks based on nationality are a cheap shot, particularly in the context of this network.

If we are to attack someone for being Spanish, on the assumption that he is the descendant of people who generations ago colonized the Caribbean, as if every Spanish person had personally laid their fist into a Taino chest...then what do we say about...Americans, who are the majority of members of this network, who are living and present, when 75% of Americans (including some Taino leaders I know) cheered Bush's invasion of Iraq? That is much more immediate, more present, more factual and far less circumstantial, distant and transgenerational.

That is why attacks based on nationality are such a cheap shot, and they can rebound with far greater force against those who make them.
Comment by Maximilian Forte on January 20, 2009 at 12:11pm
On questions of "ownership": as I am seeking to transfer the Caribbean Amerindian Centrelink, Kacike, and have sought admins. for this site...

anyone who wants to "own" this site, please stand up and say so. At this point, I would be more than ecstatic about abandoning this network, and I would eagerly relinquish the duties to anyone else, say Sha-King perhaps.
Comment by Maximilian Forte on January 20, 2009 at 12:07pm
Lastly, I will not email anyone to say you are being banned for directly attacking someone else in ways that run counter to the code of conduct. I don't intend to repeat myself: that code is the first and only warning.
Comment by Maximilian Forte on January 20, 2009 at 12:06pm for the idiot remark, I was simply saying you have to be one very foolish person to enter a network and then set about immediately insulting the person who established it. Would someone other than a perfect idiot not expect a response?

You say that you did not suggest that I babysit. On the contrary, you did just that. You placed full responsibility for how others behaved in my lap.

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