Just a caution, for those who need it;
Any sign of continued personal insults between members will lead to the banning of those persons. There seems to be a marked degeneration in the quality of discussion here, very much in contrast with the cheerful, constructive, and productive experiences that dominated early on.
As the person who initially set up this network, I cannot tolerate seeing it become another hate site for flamers. For those who are new here, show some respect please, don't rush to judge others who have been here for a good while, and you will be respected in turn.
If the only alternative to insults is silence, then please choose silence.
I personally detest having to write such a message to fellow adults, who may even be older than myself. Apologies to all those who were not involved in any conflict in this network, but who nonetheless read this message.