Hello again. Sorry for the double post, but I was wondering, how much do you know about Batu (the Taino Ball game) ? The reason I ask is that in looking at the "stone collars" I got some crazy inkling as to how they may have been used (if at all) during a ball game. I'm no expert so I'm not sure how much weight my theory holds, but I believe they may have been used as a protective armor and not worn around the waist. Its not like I could test my theory, but I'm trying to put the pieces together.
I'm not a huge fan of Liberation Theology as it can be abused and taken to extremes.
I am glad that you were familiar with the text I mentioned as I have noticed that in mentioning it to certain individuals its been a casual "I'll look into it." response and rarely if ever have I gotten a response from them.
Recently (not sure if you might be interested) I began to look into the history of La Virgen de La Caridad (de los Desamparados) del Cobre and I realized the following: there were two Indigenous kin within the boat.
Not many people realize this, but the two brothers (Juan and Rodrigo de Hoyos) along with the African slave (Juan Moreno) who found the statue of La Caridad (de los Desamparados) del Cobre floating in the sea, were indigenous. So in all likelihood, they were either Taino, Ciboney or Guahanatabey. I only became cognizant of the fact when rereading the origin of how she arrived to Cuba. I've recently set about looking for an explanation as to why the two brothers are never depicted as Natives, but have yet to get an answer. I have a statue in my home of La Caridad del Cobre that my grandmother (may she RIP) salvaged. I am in the process of restoring the image (I've been doing so for a while) and perhaps will take it upon myself to restore their Indigenous faces.
Interesting how the accounts both in English and Spanish mention this facet of their identities, but most if not all people are unaware of the fact.
Lastly how could I forget Puerto Rico's own Beato Charlie, who more than likely had Taino blood coursing through his veins.
That is a good idea. imalizia25@yahoo.com Chelsey, her fiance, and college friends love Pittsburgh so I helped them out to get started. I will be gone this wknd. on pass at my Aunts but back on Sunday night. I was having problems anyways how to figure out to use the sight anyways that is how we probably got disconnected for I here at Erie library and they also limit our time on the computers. Well have a nice weekend amigo. Do you still have my 4 leaf clover? Mary Ann
I was just talking to my director where I live and said I think I lost myself in my daughter and now I need to find who I am. I ran in Mr. Vitus Kaiser a few times downtown Erie where I live and he said Mary Ann get back into art for you were a good student with talent. I was visiting friends in San Diego for 5 days before I had to go homeless and I found out I love CA and water for I was 55 March 13 and I am a real Pisces, sensitive to everything and enjoy beauty in everything and need to be near water(the sound, colors, touching water, the mammals...) So I am just beginning my search of who I am where to live. By the way your wife looks beautiful-- I was looking up some Indian info for Chelsey and saw your pictures!!! Adios Amigo, Anna Marie
Correct. I am Mary Ann Desjardins(DePalma). I left my daughter, Chelsey and fiance James Alalamula(native Samoan) my 2 bedroom apt. in Sewickley with all my furniture. You Chelsey is part Iroqouis Indian from her grandfather Onondaga Nation. Even tho her father has blonde hair and blue eyes--Chelsey has black eyes and darker hair than I. She was singer/dancer/theater but decided to work with animals she loves like I do and majoring in Zoology. Now I am back in Erie, living in Homeless Shelter trying to find my life -- I keep tho close contact with Chelsey and my family. How you doing?
Natiao,
Try Julia's address: smallcat94@aol.com
She'll give him the email
Sorry, I won't be able to attend the affairs in VA. It's too short noticed. Tomorrow, I shall see our Taino and other Native brothers at the Federal Prison. I participate in prison ministry. I shall give them your blessing. Bo'matum. Rose
Tau natiao Miguel,
Thank you for gracious hospitality. I 'v been contemplating since our meeting how comfortable it felt to be around other Tainos. Lennie was comforting and I appreciated it. My niece Julia has had the opportunity to meet Naniki and you. She's been raised the anglo way, Dave won't speak Spanish to her. The girls yearn for their identity. Thus, her only exposure is a Lakota family and they're not used to Taino music,etc. I had invited Dave and was surprised he agreed to come. Actually, Julia felt my disappointment in an IM. Again, natiao thank you for your love. Incidentally, when you were instructing,Dave told me that when you took the tabanocu to him, he closed his eyes and saw another older man with a bigger headress instructing children! He was afraid to say anything and freak you out. We must talk sometime:)
Oma'bahari and bo'matum. Rose Xochitl AnaO Quinones DelValle
Hello.I was in Utuado site I took photo and when I was ready to go I look back and I got this feeing of crying . I know that I have to go back ,But this time to the river.That place hasnt been discover yet.I did go in the river because it had beeing raining .Nice page you have here. I will have to take more time reading what you have here.Thank you
At 1:49pm on February 28, 2009, LIFE IS GOOD said…
Thank you Miguel for your kind words, it takes one to know one : ) It has been a dangerous journey for me as a woman being initiated by the spirits of the black jaguar and now that this stage is complete I am as a collective shaman almost complete with my work. Recently Krishna has begun to appear around me, since I must believe in all and belong to none, I am dearly blessed by spirit and I should be, they put me through and out the other side of hell : ) My name literally means the Black Modonna. I was so blown away by the beauty of puerto rico last week, it is a very wonderful place.
Love and Blessings Maria Kathrzna Frankuzka Czarnik Petruha Novak
Sobaoko, Akuturey my brothers it is always a great day when I hear from you. Thanks for the complement on my drumming on the Mayowakan. Throughout the years I have gotten mixed reviews on my drumming, but as I always say I play from the heart and my people seem to be able to dance to the rhythms so I am oblivious to the criticism. I also had plenty of help from the other mayowakanelos like Kamu who always plays with me and during this year Areyto your son who joined us as we all rocked the house.
Our bond is even stronger than you know when it comes to Cuba. I have never forgotten Cuba mi querida Cuba. Your home town of Santiago and the warmth of its people have been imprinted in my heart. The time is quickly approaching when this strangled hold on Cuba by the Embargo will be lifted and all of our people will be reunited as one. On that day we will both be standing side by side in Santiago de Cuba for a celebration. A celebration I will not miss unless I am dead. Our family has a Cuban connection that is not totally clear but the story handed down by my father is that his grandmother was Cubana and that on her dying bed she would requested and lament her desirer to return to Cuba the land of her family and be buried there. Unfortunately it was not possible at the time to grant her final request. This created an deep desirer for me to visit our sister island of Cuba and symbolically grant her request and bury her there. When the opportunity to travel to Cuba presented itself, I did not hesitate and jumped at the opportunity to return to the land of my ancestors. With the help of a few of the new friends from the town of Santiago. We put together a small ceremony and buried my grate grandmother by the seashore. I kid you not when I tell you that at the completion of the ceremony all hell broke lose as I made contact with the ancestors and taken on a wild rollercoaster ride that lasted about three weeks until we landed in Boriken and I was put into the capable hands of a curandela. A private story that I will personally tell you when we sit and brake bread in Pittsburg PA, in the very near future. Ahiahude waitiao take care until we meet again.
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I am glad that you were familiar with the text I mentioned as I have noticed that in mentioning it to certain individuals its been a casual "I'll look into it." response and rarely if ever have I gotten a response from them.
Recently (not sure if you might be interested) I began to look into the history of La Virgen de La Caridad (de los Desamparados) del Cobre and I realized the following: there were two Indigenous kin within the boat.
Not many people realize this, but the two brothers (Juan and Rodrigo de Hoyos) along with the African slave (Juan Moreno) who found the statue of La Caridad (de los Desamparados) del Cobre floating in the sea, were indigenous. So in all likelihood, they were either Taino, Ciboney or Guahanatabey. I only became cognizant of the fact when rereading the origin of how she arrived to Cuba. I've recently set about looking for an explanation as to why the two brothers are never depicted as Natives, but have yet to get an answer. I have a statue in my home of La Caridad del Cobre that my grandmother (may she RIP) salvaged. I am in the process of restoring the image (I've been doing so for a while) and perhaps will take it upon myself to restore their Indigenous faces.
Interesting how the accounts both in English and Spanish mention this facet of their identities, but most if not all people are unaware of the fact.
Lastly how could I forget Puerto Rico's own Beato Charlie, who more than likely had Taino blood coursing through his veins.
http://www.corazones.org/santos/carlos_manuel_rodriguez.htm
Many thanks for your help!
Cheri
Try Julia's address: smallcat94@aol.com
She'll give him the email
Sorry, I won't be able to attend the affairs in VA. It's too short noticed. Tomorrow, I shall see our Taino and other Native brothers at the Federal Prison. I participate in prison ministry. I shall give them your blessing. Bo'matum. Rose
Thank you for gracious hospitality. I 'v been contemplating since our meeting how comfortable it felt to be around other Tainos. Lennie was comforting and I appreciated it. My niece Julia has had the opportunity to meet Naniki and you. She's been raised the anglo way, Dave won't speak Spanish to her. The girls yearn for their identity. Thus, her only exposure is a Lakota family and they're not used to Taino music,etc. I had invited Dave and was surprised he agreed to come. Actually, Julia felt my disappointment in an IM. Again, natiao thank you for your love. Incidentally, when you were instructing,Dave told me that when you took the tabanocu to him, he closed his eyes and saw another older man with a bigger headress instructing children! He was afraid to say anything and freak you out. We must talk sometime:)
Oma'bahari and bo'matum. Rose Xochitl AnaO Quinones DelValle
Love and Blessings Maria Kathrzna Frankuzka Czarnik Petruha Novak
Our bond is even stronger than you know when it comes to Cuba. I have never forgotten Cuba mi querida Cuba. Your home town of Santiago and the warmth of its people have been imprinted in my heart. The time is quickly approaching when this strangled hold on Cuba by the Embargo will be lifted and all of our people will be reunited as one. On that day we will both be standing side by side in Santiago de Cuba for a celebration. A celebration I will not miss unless I am dead. Our family has a Cuban connection that is not totally clear but the story handed down by my father is that his grandmother was Cubana and that on her dying bed she would requested and lament her desirer to return to Cuba the land of her family and be buried there. Unfortunately it was not possible at the time to grant her final request. This created an deep desirer for me to visit our sister island of Cuba and symbolically grant her request and bury her there. When the opportunity to travel to Cuba presented itself, I did not hesitate and jumped at the opportunity to return to the land of my ancestors. With the help of a few of the new friends from the town of Santiago. We put together a small ceremony and buried my grate grandmother by the seashore. I kid you not when I tell you that at the completion of the ceremony all hell broke lose as I made contact with the ancestors and taken on a wild rollercoaster ride that lasted about three weeks until we landed in Boriken and I was put into the capable hands of a curandela. A private story that I will personally tell you when we sit and brake bread in Pittsburg PA, in the very near future. Ahiahude waitiao take care until we meet again.
Waribonex
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