Can someone break it down for me? - Indigenous Caribbean Network2024-03-28T13:30:59Zhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/forum/topics/can-someone-break-it-down-for?commentId=2030313%3AComment%3A25526&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLong ago, in the foothills of…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-29:2030313:Comment:328442009-01-29T18:12:16.961ZAl "Kutubanama" Velazquezhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/AlKutubanamaVelazquez
Long ago, in the foothills of the Andes, there was a group of people known as the Collas or Collanos. They began to migrate. Those that went up the Andes are the ones that later created the Inca Empire. The othes went along the lands of the Tupi and Guarani people and continued a northerly passage through the Amazon and up to the northern part of South America. Along the way, their ways were influenced by the people of the regions they encountered, including the mainland Arawaks. From the…
Long ago, in the foothills of the Andes, there was a group of people known as the Collas or Collanos. They began to migrate. Those that went up the Andes are the ones that later created the Inca Empire. The othes went along the lands of the Tupi and Guarani people and continued a northerly passage through the Amazon and up to the northern part of South America. Along the way, their ways were influenced by the people of the regions they encountered, including the mainland Arawaks. From the Orinoco River they went up the island chain of the Lesser Antilles at the same time that a goup of people reffered to as Arcaicos were coming down from present day Florida through the Bimini Chain of the Bahamas. They "Merged" in the Greater Antilles, later becoming what was to be known as the Igneri or Eyeri, later on evolving into what became the Taino. The mainland Caribs also came up the island chain of the Lesser Antilles and tried to get a foothold into the Greater Antilles, but didn't. They did live in parts of Boriken as well as Kiskeya, and in Kiskeya, Tainos mixed with Caribs were also known as Ciguayos. This is a very short and simplified quick history lesson as you requested. Hope it helps!!! Danielle; before it becomes a…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-29:2030313:Comment:326662009-01-29T06:32:31.384ZAl "Kutubanama" Velazquezhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/AlKutubanamaVelazquez
Danielle; before it becomes another controversial topic, please look at ALL the pics I've posted, and tell me if you see something in common. You know I'm here for you and your family. No controversy will confuse nor difuse what I want you to see when Native topics are concerned, and you know that!!!
Danielle; before it becomes another controversial topic, please look at ALL the pics I've posted, and tell me if you see something in common. You know I'm here for you and your family. No controversy will confuse nor difuse what I want you to see when Native topics are concerned, and you know that!!! I can identify with Carrie in…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-29:2030313:Comment:326642009-01-29T06:21:44.332ZAl "Kutubanama" Velazquezhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/AlKutubanamaVelazquez
I can identify with Carrie in the fact that you have to be careful about :Looking Indian". To hell with the percentage!!! If you don't know it yet, and you want to find out, DO SO!!! If not, ask the family elders about the family history, and I guarantee you that they WILL give you mmore than you ever thought of. WHY??? Maybe they have NEVER been asked!!! Ask them about "Abuela". Ask them about "ABUELO". Ask them about their "ABUELOS/ABUELAS". They may look surprised, and even if they are a…
I can identify with Carrie in the fact that you have to be careful about :Looking Indian". To hell with the percentage!!! If you don't know it yet, and you want to find out, DO SO!!! If not, ask the family elders about the family history, and I guarantee you that they WILL give you mmore than you ever thought of. WHY??? Maybe they have NEVER been asked!!! Ask them about "Abuela". Ask them about "ABUELO". Ask them about their "ABUELOS/ABUELAS". They may look surprised, and even if they are a little reluctanct, they will sooner or later answer your question, guaranteed!!! Just for kicks and giggles, let me ask you: After looking at my page and my pics; Any doubts about me being Native??? NOT ALL!!! I can show you som…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-29:2030313:Comment:326562009-01-29T06:09:49.003ZAl "Kutubanama" Velazquezhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/AlKutubanamaVelazquez
NOT ALL!!! I can show you some of my relatives who's roots are from SPAIN and their traits show that they are NORSE!!! In other words, Spaniards are NOT uni-Racial nor Uni Lineal!!! No doubt about the Moors history in the Iberian Peninsula, but understand that that NEVER turned the Iberian peninsula as "One Bloodline". Remember that a GREAT DEAL of Europe had been dominated by the NORSE PEOPLE (Vikings). Today, just as in the early 1400's there were those of African, Mediterranian, Jewish, and…
NOT ALL!!! I can show you some of my relatives who's roots are from SPAIN and their traits show that they are NORSE!!! In other words, Spaniards are NOT uni-Racial nor Uni Lineal!!! No doubt about the Moors history in the Iberian Peninsula, but understand that that NEVER turned the Iberian peninsula as "One Bloodline". Remember that a GREAT DEAL of Europe had been dominated by the NORSE PEOPLE (Vikings). Today, just as in the early 1400's there were those of African, Mediterranian, Jewish, and Norse people who were there before the conquest of the Moors!!! They NEVER exterminated the NON-ARABIC/AFRICAN people, because, just as they did in the Americas, they protected themselves by NOT revealing fully what they all were!!! This is common all over the planet!!! Spaniard can be Mediterranian, Arabic, Jewish, African, and even Norse (WHITES WHO ARE WHITE/NORDIC [LIGHT SKINNED, LIGHT HAIRED, BLUE EYED] Like many of my present day relatives!!! Samuel, please understand that Spaniards are NOT only Mediterranian!!! There is NO SUCH THING as MEDITERRANIAN RACE!!! be careful with ¨¨looking Ind…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-06:2030313:Comment:255262009-01-06T20:23:00.718Zadem medina cardonahttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/ademmcardona
be careful with ¨¨looking Indian¨¨<br />
it can have little to do with identifying with or actually being of indigenous descent<br />
peace-c
be careful with ¨¨looking Indian¨¨<br />
it can have little to do with identifying with or actually being of indigenous descent<br />
peace-c lol Yeah we always kinda knew…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-06:2030313:Comment:255172009-01-06T20:10:49.849ZIvyhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/IvyQuintero
lol Yeah we always kinda knew there was Taino blood there but I guess my dad wanted to really confirm it on paper. And I agree, he does look like some of the North American Indians, but he gets people that tell him he looks everything from Italian to Greek and everything in between! lol His father on the other hand, was also born in Cuba but his grandfather was born in the Canary Islands so that mixes things up a bit. But one day I would like to get a more in-depth test that shows everything,…
lol Yeah we always kinda knew there was Taino blood there but I guess my dad wanted to really confirm it on paper. And I agree, he does look like some of the North American Indians, but he gets people that tell him he looks everything from Italian to Greek and everything in between! lol His father on the other hand, was also born in Cuba but his grandfather was born in the Canary Islands so that mixes things up a bit. But one day I would like to get a more in-depth test that shows everything, not just the mitochondrial DNA. It would be interesting to see what percentage of African, Spanish, Taino, etc. etc. and to see how far back they can go. The test that ivy mentioned o…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-04:2030313:Comment:251132009-01-04T05:25:26.718ZJuan Almontehttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/JuanAlmonte
The test that ivy mentioned only traces the mitochronal gene. That means that if the linage is broken it will not show up. In her father case the linage was not broken. The part from cuba that her father mom is from I am pretty sure they were unmixed.<br />
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So if you have her take the test and nothing shows up it doesnt mean that she doesnt have native ancestory.<br />
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There are dna admixture test. This basically tells you everything that she should have. But a good dna admixture test could be up in the…
The test that ivy mentioned only traces the mitochronal gene. That means that if the linage is broken it will not show up. In her father case the linage was not broken. The part from cuba that her father mom is from I am pretty sure they were unmixed.<br />
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So if you have her take the test and nothing shows up it doesnt mean that she doesnt have native ancestory.<br />
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There are dna admixture test. This basically tells you everything that she should have. But a good dna admixture test could be up in the thousands. I am talking about a tets that can actually test for over 10,ooo markers. There are some dna admixture test that cost about 200 or 300 bucks. But they only check for 150 or 200 markers. So she may get false postives. Meaning she may get more african and white and native american or vice a versa. Thanks Ivy and Ruben. I think…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-04:2030313:Comment:251052009-01-04T05:10:32.888ZDanielle Camposhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/DanielleCampos
Thanks Ivy and Ruben. I think I'm going to look into that DNA testing if my mother in law will agree to it. I have always thought she looked very indigenous and her mother even more.<br />
Ruben, the baby she is holding is my son Mateo! I always felt that he resembled my mother in law in ways that even my husband doesnt. Granted, he is a mixture of me also, so he isnt her twin but especially when he was first born. My husband doesnt really care about stuff like this, but for my son I would really…
Thanks Ivy and Ruben. I think I'm going to look into that DNA testing if my mother in law will agree to it. I have always thought she looked very indigenous and her mother even more.<br />
Ruben, the baby she is holding is my son Mateo! I always felt that he resembled my mother in law in ways that even my husband doesnt. Granted, he is a mixture of me also, so he isnt her twin but especially when he was first born. My husband doesnt really care about stuff like this, but for my son I would really like to find out if there is indigenous descent.<br />
Thanks everyone :)<br />
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P.S.-May I ask you all what it is when you look at a face or bone structure that makes you think they have indigenous blood in them? Ivy you guys wasted your mone…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-04:2030313:Comment:250982009-01-04T04:59:49.559ZJuan Almontehttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/JuanAlmonte
Ivy you guys wasted your money. I could have told you your dad was of amerdian ancestory. He actually looks like some north american indians that I have seen. He has got very strong amerdian face.
Ivy you guys wasted your money. I could have told you your dad was of amerdian ancestory. He actually looks like some north american indians that I have seen. He has got very strong amerdian face. If you are willing to invest…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2009-01-03:2030313:Comment:248162009-01-03T17:20:34.446ZIvyhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/IvyQuintero
If you are willing to invest about $100, National Geographic does a sort of basic DNA testing that gives you the origin of your mitochondrial DNA which I think you can only trace through the females in the family, but that is how my family confirmed that we were of Taino/Indigenous decent. Meaning that my grandmother (my father's mother) who was born in Cuba, has Taino blood, as did her mother, and her mother's mother, and so forth, for many generations. They were (and are) indigenous to the…
If you are willing to invest about $100, National Geographic does a sort of basic DNA testing that gives you the origin of your mitochondrial DNA which I think you can only trace through the females in the family, but that is how my family confirmed that we were of Taino/Indigenous decent. Meaning that my grandmother (my father's mother) who was born in Cuba, has Taino blood, as did her mother, and her mother's mother, and so forth, for many generations. They were (and are) indigenous to the island.<br />
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By the way, my opinion is that the woman in the picture is VERY "indigenous-looking", but of course that's just going by face value.