Federal Recognition for Taino People - Indigenous Caribbean Network2024-03-29T01:19:20Zhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/forum/topics/federal-recognition-for-taino?commentId=2030313%3AComment%3A105783&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHan Han katutag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-20:2030313:Comment:2431072024-01-20T06:06:00.684ZMiguel Sague Jrhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MiguelSobaokoKoromosague
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tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-20:2030313:Comment:2431992024-01-20T02:18:19.344ZMichelle Inarú Roparáhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MichelleLopezWellansky
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<p></p> Ta'kahi Itia'no [Greetings Fa…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-19:2030313:Comment:2431932024-01-19T18:19:02.162ZJoanna 'Aya' Soto-Aviléshttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/JoannaSotoAviles
<p>Ta'kahi Itia'no [Greetings Family/Relatives],</p>
<p>Praying this message finds you in good health and good spirit.</p>
<p>I would like to share with you, humbly and respectfully, the fact that Borikén and our Ancestors' Traditions are not completely lost. There are still people here in Borikén who continue to resist the myth of our extinction and are working hard to continue living according to our Ancestors' Culture and Traditions, and to protect our beloved Borikén and all of Mother…</p>
<p>Ta'kahi Itia'no [Greetings Family/Relatives],</p>
<p>Praying this message finds you in good health and good spirit.</p>
<p>I would like to share with you, humbly and respectfully, the fact that Borikén and our Ancestors' Traditions are not completely lost. There are still people here in Borikén who continue to resist the myth of our extinction and are working hard to continue living according to our Ancestors' Culture and Traditions, and to protect our beloved Borikén and all of Mother Earth.</p>
<p>While we may grieve for the many terrible things endured by our Ancestors and our beloved Borikén, we choose to channel that energy into working to conserve, maintain, and promote our Culture, Existence, and Traditions. We work towards overcoming, surviving, and thriving, not only in Borikén but also throughout the Caribbean, the Diaspora, and the World and Universe.</p>
<p>Much of what we do here in Borikén does not appear in the news and/or social media. However, this does not mean that we do not exist and that we are doing nothing.</p>
<p>It has taken hundreds of years of abuse, assimilation, colonization, exploitation, genocide, and murder to get to where we are today, and it still continues to this day, so it will take just as much time and more to undo the damage caused by colonization, fear, greed, hate, and selfishness, but we do it not just for ourselves but for future generations and the good of all. We cannot rely on the colonizer to help de-colonize and re-indigenize. It is up to each and every one of us who identifies as Boricua Aboriginal/Indigenous/First Peoples/Original Peoples/Taíno/etc. to work together for the good of our Peoples, the Lands, and all Creation. We are the Warriors we have been waiting for. We need to help each other and ourselves to Create the Reality we and our Ancestors have prayed for. We need to first change Ourselves, and then our Families, then our Communities, then our Nations and the World.</p>
<p>We need to Remember that Spirit is Eternal. We Are All One... One Spirit, One Family, One Creation. We need to think beyond ourselves and the delusions and illusions of this "dominant" society (the matrix) we find ourselves in, and see it as a school where we can learn to develop a 360-degree, multi-dimensional perspective on everything, and grow in True and Unconditional Love.</p>
<p>Once we Educate ourselves and each other, Learn, and Understand each other's perspective with an Open Mind, we can grow in Compassion, Generosity, Humility, Kindness, Love, and Wisdom, so we can make Good Decisions, and take Appropriate Actions that will Benefit All of Us and All of Creation.</p>
<p>Change may come slowly (too slowly in the opinions of many), but we are in this for the long run, for a lasting change and evolution, one step at a time.</p>
<p>Gu'ansihi Bui, Itia'no [We Love You, Family]... 😘💕❤️️</p>
<p>May the Creator Great Spirit, YaYa, and the Ancestors Bless, Guide, Heal, Nurture, Protect, Strengthen, and Sustain us all, now and always... ✨💖🔥</p>
<p>Seneko Kakona, guaboka kena iméguabo <br/>[Abundant Blessings, now and always]... ✨💖🙏🌟</p> I totally agree with you on t…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-19:2030313:Comment:2431052024-01-19T01:39:32.883ZMiguel Sague Jrhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MiguelSobaokoKoromosague
<p>I totally agree with you on the subject of United States federal recognition. I also agree with you on the subject of colonialism. My objection, as I mentioned already, was your off-the-cuff comment on the nature of the word "Taíno". I think you should be more thoughtful about how you phrase such statements because, although there is currently a kind of new fad of identifying that word as a colonial invention, there is also an equally strong push-back to that fad. That word is sacred to us…</p>
<p>I totally agree with you on the subject of United States federal recognition. I also agree with you on the subject of colonialism. My objection, as I mentioned already, was your off-the-cuff comment on the nature of the word "Taíno". I think you should be more thoughtful about how you phrase such statements because, although there is currently a kind of new fad of identifying that word as a colonial invention, there is also an equally strong push-back to that fad. That word is sacred to us and we don't take kindly to off-the-cuff comments about it. These comments are offensive.</p> Miguel,
I meant no disrespec…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-19:2030313:Comment:2430132024-01-19T00:34:39.843ZAngie Santiagohttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/AngieSantiago
Miguel,<br />
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I meant no disrespect as I was not addressing you or your identity. I was providing my opinion on the question of formal recognition.<br />
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Given the generations of colonialism and assimilation by the Spanish and the United States, my lens leans more critical of colonial systems. I wasn’t being critical towards you at all.<br />
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I grieve for the loss of our Boriken.<br />
I grieve for the loss of my ancestors’ traditions in PR and the diaspora.<br />
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I have always walked with my elders, ancestors, the…
Miguel,<br />
<br />
I meant no disrespect as I was not addressing you or your identity. I was providing my opinion on the question of formal recognition.<br />
<br />
Given the generations of colonialism and assimilation by the Spanish and the United States, my lens leans more critical of colonial systems. I wasn’t being critical towards you at all.<br />
<br />
I grieve for the loss of our Boriken.<br />
I grieve for the loss of my ancestors’ traditions in PR and the diaspora.<br />
<br />
I have always walked with my elders, ancestors, the land, and my animal relatives. I continue to walk with curiosity and openness and hope we can walk together. Hi there. I'm going to messa…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-18:2030313:Comment:2431912024-01-18T23:18:32.122ZMichelle Inarú Roparáhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MichelleLopezWellansky
<p>Hi there. I'm going to message you.</p>
<p>Hi there. I'm going to message you.</p> I agree that there is always…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-18:2030313:Comment:2429602024-01-18T07:02:21.991ZMiguel Sague Jrhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MiguelSobaokoKoromosague
<p>I agree that there is always room for respectful difference of opinion even considering the topic of our tribal name. A person who knows that I self-identify as Taino and says: "<span>Besides, Taino is the colonial Spanish name for our indigenous ancestors and people" knowing that this term is the one that I use to identify my tribe is not approaching me with respect. That person is attempting to "school me" and you know that. I am respectful to those who are respectful to me. That tone was…</span></p>
<p>I agree that there is always room for respectful difference of opinion even considering the topic of our tribal name. A person who knows that I self-identify as Taino and says: "<span>Besides, Taino is the colonial Spanish name for our indigenous ancestors and people" knowing that this term is the one that I use to identify my tribe is not approaching me with respect. That person is attempting to "school me" and you know that. I am respectful to those who are respectful to me. That tone was the tone of someone who feels that she has the right to "correct" me not someone who offers the question: "I have heard that the word Taino is not the legitimate name of our tribe. I see that you use that word for the name of our tribe. I want to respectfully ask, could you share with me why you use that word?" I would have reacted much more positively to that tone. You spoke with respect. She did not.</span></p> Taino ti brother. With respe…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-18:2030313:Comment:2430612024-01-18T03:36:08.885ZMichelle Inarú Roparáhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MichelleLopezWellansky
<p>Taino ti brother. With respect, I don't think our sister was trying to be difficult or rude or offensive by saying that Taino wasn't the original name. Because the colonialists tried so hard to wipe out our culture, it can be difficult to know what to believe when we try to research. There are many conflicting claims about our culture and history and it can be difficult to discern what is real, what is legitimate. I've heard this claim too, that the name "Taino" was not what we called…</p>
<p>Taino ti brother. With respect, I don't think our sister was trying to be difficult or rude or offensive by saying that Taino wasn't the original name. Because the colonialists tried so hard to wipe out our culture, it can be difficult to know what to believe when we try to research. There are many conflicting claims about our culture and history and it can be difficult to discern what is real, what is legitimate. I've heard this claim too, that the name "Taino" was not what we called ourselves originally. There's so much misinformation out there that we are bound to have different or incorrect ideas about it sometimes. Hahom</p>
<p></p> Greetings relative. I general…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-17:2030313:Comment:2429562024-01-17T15:40:12.440ZMiguel Sague Jrhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MiguelSobaokoKoromosague
<p>Greetings relative. I generally agree with you that I feel there is very little benefit to United States federal recognition. I feel we Taino will do better by asserting our own relevance in the current world through our own Resurgence Movement. I do disagree with you on tyhe issue of our tribal name. There is definitive historic proof that the tribal name of our people is the word TAINO. I know that there is now a very popular trope that the word "Taino" is not really a legitimate title of…</p>
<p>Greetings relative. I generally agree with you that I feel there is very little benefit to United States federal recognition. I feel we Taino will do better by asserting our own relevance in the current world through our own Resurgence Movement. I do disagree with you on tyhe issue of our tribal name. There is definitive historic proof that the tribal name of our people is the word TAINO. I know that there is now a very popular trope that the word "Taino" is not really a legitimate title of our tribe. It's become quite the fad for younger members of our Resurgence Movement to scream at us the older generation that they knw better than us about our own tribe. That's OK, we feel its cute to see this attempt by some to to express their independence by belittling the belief of those of us who have been at this since before they were even born. I think the most amusing stream of this "No Taino" movement is the inclination to call us "Arawaks" and "Lokonos". These words are actually the tribal name of a particular tribe living in Guyana. I am pretty sure that the real Arawaks, the real Lokonos will take a pretty dim view of another tribe appropriating their name. This "Arawak" confusion arises from the fact that linguists. concluded that the Taino language belongs to a huge language family that includes the Lokono (ArawaK) language, as well as other South American tribes such as the Wapishana, the Wayuu and the Campa. The linguists chose to name this language family "ARAWAKAN" borrowing the term from the name of the Lokono tribe. In other words, the Taino language is a member of the Arawakan language family. That doe not make Taino "Arawak" . Taht is ridiculous. The English language belongs to the Germanic language family. That does not mean that the inhabitants of Great Britain speak "German". That would be ridiculous also. Just because English is a Germanic language does not mean that English is German, any more than any of the other members of the Germanic language family such as Dutch and Flemish. They are all individual unique languages that happen to all be related. By the same token the Taino language is a member of the Arawakan language family but IT IS NOT ARAWAK. The Taino speak TAINO, The Taino are Taino, NOT ARAWAK. </p> Since the federal government…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2024-01-17:2030313:Comment:2429532024-01-17T15:06:47.194ZAngie Santiagohttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/AngieSantiago
<p>Since the federal government has never abided by ANY of the treaties for the federally recognized tribes, I do not see the point. </p>
<p>Besides, Taino is the colonial Spanish name for our indigenous ancestors and people. Are we seeking to become a nation? A tribe within that nation? Which tribe(s)? Does PR recognize it? What funding or protections does that get us? </p>
<p>I do believe it's important to ensure the protection of our sacred grounds and go from there. </p>
<p>Since the federal government has never abided by ANY of the treaties for the federally recognized tribes, I do not see the point. </p>
<p>Besides, Taino is the colonial Spanish name for our indigenous ancestors and people. Are we seeking to become a nation? A tribe within that nation? Which tribe(s)? Does PR recognize it? What funding or protections does that get us? </p>
<p>I do believe it's important to ensure the protection of our sacred grounds and go from there. </p>