Tainos with male and female energy or Two-spirit - Indigenous Caribbean Network2024-03-29T10:05:47Zhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/forum/topics/tainos-with-male-and-female-energy-or-two-spirit?groupUrl=caneycircle&commentId=2030313%3AComment%3A109036&groupId=2030313%3AGroup%3A197&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAs humble servant and followe…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-16:2030313:Comment:1092502015-03-16T14:59:25.086ZRamon Aquinohttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/RamonAquino922
<p>As humble servant and follower of The Law of One. I am please to be of service.</p>
<p><span>Seneko kakona</span></p>
<p>As humble servant and follower of The Law of One. I am please to be of service.</p>
<p><span>Seneko kakona</span></p> The Females are more biologic…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-16:2030313:Comment:1089482015-03-16T14:53:36.911ZRamon Aquinohttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/RamonAquino922
<p>The Females are more biologically complex and superior to Males in perpetuating the Species in an Humane ideal environment. In fact, the symbology used clearly shows that superiority.</p>
<p>Female=<strong>XX......</strong>8 short lines forming the symbol.==100% of material.</p>
<p>Male===<strong>XY......7</strong> short lines forming the symbol.==087.5% of material.</p>
<p>If you review history all Matriarchal Societies have fare better than the Patriarchal ones during the last 5000 years.…</p>
<p>The Females are more biologically complex and superior to Males in perpetuating the Species in an Humane ideal environment. In fact, the symbology used clearly shows that superiority.</p>
<p>Female=<strong>XX......</strong>8 short lines forming the symbol.==100% of material.</p>
<p>Male===<strong>XY......7</strong> short lines forming the symbol.==087.5% of material.</p>
<p>If you review history all Matriarchal Societies have fare better than the Patriarchal ones during the last 5000 years. The last 500 years have been Patriarchially dominated; thankfully, in the oncoming years/decades/centuries, Matriarchal Societies will be taking over.</p>
<p>This is a matter of Cosmic Cycles, but the peculiar aspect is that the changes are to be initiated (or already began in 1987-Harmonic Convergence promoted by Arguelles) by the Indigenous Movements reclaiming of their Sovereign Mind/Thinking/Ancestry Honoring and Respect for our Traditions and Belief Systems.</p>
<p><span>Seneko kakona</span></p> Thank you for simplifying as…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-15:2030313:Comment:1089462015-03-15T23:24:33.018ZMiguel Sague Jrhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MiguelSobaokoKoromosague
<p>Thank you for simplifying as much as is possible what is a very complex phenomenon my relative and advancing the knowledge that exists here in this community. Jajom (Thanks) </p>
<p>Thank you for simplifying as much as is possible what is a very complex phenomenon my relative and advancing the knowledge that exists here in this community. Jajom (Thanks) </p> Beautifully described!!! So g…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-15:2030313:Comment:1090362015-03-15T23:16:35.068ZJeffry Mucaro Blake Johnsonhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/Jeffry
Beautifully described!!! So good to have a doctor and a scientist in the house!<br />
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It is interesting that females have more causes for masculization that males!<br />
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Bo matun (thank you) for sharing these things with us!
Beautifully described!!! So good to have a doctor and a scientist in the house!<br />
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It is interesting that females have more causes for masculization that males!<br />
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Bo matun (thank you) for sharing these things with us! Hi Jeffry. Thanks for your cu…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-15:2030313:Comment:1091342015-03-15T21:27:08.487ZRamon Aquinohttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/RamonAquino922
<p>Hi Jeffry. Thanks for your curiosity.</p>
<p>It is simple and according to science is due to some groups of genes "misbehaving" while the Embrion develops In Uterus; this "misbehavior" results in alterations in the balanced and sequential activation of different hormonal players at various stages of development in the womb.</p>
<p>The main culprit is this tongue twister <span>5-alfa reductasa</span> deficiency for those of the XY (male gender) chromosomes. This prevents or avoids the…</p>
<p>Hi Jeffry. Thanks for your curiosity.</p>
<p>It is simple and according to science is due to some groups of genes "misbehaving" while the Embrion develops In Uterus; this "misbehavior" results in alterations in the balanced and sequential activation of different hormonal players at various stages of development in the womb.</p>
<p>The main culprit is this tongue twister <span>5-alfa reductasa</span> deficiency for those of the XY (male gender) chromosomes. This prevents or avoids the actions of Testosterone in the Fetus which is the main driver of male attributes. There are other reasons but you don't want a dissertation on the subject.</p>
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<p><span>21-hidroxilasa deficiency in females with Hyperfunctioning Adrenal Glands (In Utero or not) is the main cause in the XX (female gender) chromosomes. They "masculinize" due to the excess of Cortisol produced. This is also genes not doing their job. Females have more causes for Masculinization than Males for Femenization.</span></p>
<p><span>External Genitalia are the end result of complex and beautiful symphony that began to play at the 6 weeks of conception.</span></p>
<p><span>I hope to have satisfied your curiosity</span></p>
<p><span><span>Seneko kakona</span></span></p> Bo Matun from me as well, Ram…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-14:2030313:Comment:1091522015-03-14T17:35:23.343ZJeffry Mucaro Blake Johnsonhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/Jeffry
Bo Matun from me as well, Ramon. What a beautiful, thoughtful post of the fluidity of our inner gender! How inspiring Kiskeia sounds - allowing each soul to choose its own outer gender expression!<br />
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We have much to learn from that compassionate, listening way of treating one another.<br />
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Just curious, any idea why most of the children born have undefined genitals?<br />
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Seneko kakona (abundant blessings)!
Bo Matun from me as well, Ramon. What a beautiful, thoughtful post of the fluidity of our inner gender! How inspiring Kiskeia sounds - allowing each soul to choose its own outer gender expression!<br />
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We have much to learn from that compassionate, listening way of treating one another.<br />
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Just curious, any idea why most of the children born have undefined genitals?<br />
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Seneko kakona (abundant blessings)! Thank You for your kind words…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-14:2030313:Comment:1088492015-03-14T17:25:36.879ZRamon Aquinohttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/RamonAquino922
<p>Thank You for your kind words dear relative.</p>
<p>I am threading gently here until I get familiar with the Tenets of the circle.</p>
<p>So, will continue my browsing and comments when clarification can be brought to the subject at hand.</p>
<p>Thank You for your kind words dear relative.</p>
<p>I am threading gently here until I get familiar with the Tenets of the circle.</p>
<p>So, will continue my browsing and comments when clarification can be brought to the subject at hand.</p> This is a very helpful and in…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-13:2030313:Comment:1089402015-03-13T12:10:24.582ZMiguel Sague Jrhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/MiguelSobaokoKoromosague
This is a very helpful and informative post, my relative. Bo matun (thank you). I look forward to further contributions from you. The Caney circle needs more involved and thoughtful members in our community.
This is a very helpful and informative post, my relative. Bo matun (thank you). I look forward to further contributions from you. The Caney circle needs more involved and thoughtful members in our community. Greetings to All!. As a new m…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2015-03-12:2030313:Comment:1089262015-03-12T15:12:25.167ZRamon Aquinohttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/RamonAquino922
<p>Greetings to All!. As a new member of the group and circle, have no Taino words in my vocabulary but will offer an additional opinion in this subject.</p>
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<p><span> "Two-Spirited/Hupias" concept expressed in this thread can be equated to the term Androgynous where neither gender predominates in their expressions of Universal Love, regardless of outer appearances/genitals expression. In its more pure essence, it represents an advanced evolutionary integration of The Consciousness…</span></p>
<p>Greetings to All!. As a new member of the group and circle, have no Taino words in my vocabulary but will offer an additional opinion in this subject.</p>
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<p><span> "Two-Spirited/Hupias" concept expressed in this thread can be equated to the term Androgynous where neither gender predominates in their expressions of Universal Love, regardless of outer appearances/genitals expression. In its more pure essence, it represents an advanced evolutionary integration of The Consciousness trapped in the physical body of Homo sapiens. Unfortunately or not, Homo sapiens is an animal with instincts, hormones and a nervous system that drives its actions.</span></p>
<p><span>Those physical actions may or not be in accord with the mental polarity of duality (Male/Female) that most of us are still imprisoned by and their "normal" behavior. Thusly they are subjected to criticisms which may or not be valid depending on the level of evolutionary integration of the observer.</span></p>
<p><span>In Kiskeia we have a town where most of the kids are born with undefined genitals and they have learned , as a community, to guide them properly in their early years so as to allow them to chose which gender they want to adopt as adults.</span></p> Bo'matun for this beautiful p…tag:indigenouscaribbean.ning.com,2014-05-29:2030313:Comment:1040352014-05-29T14:23:28.967ZJeffry Mucaro Blake Johnsonhttps://indigenouscaribbean.ning.com/profile/Jeffry
<p>Bo'matun for this beautiful post!! I remember the first time I learned about Two-Spirit individuals. How completely empowering that was to know that (many of) my Native relatives did not see me as an abomination, as a gay man! With that new perspective, "coming out" is not something to fear, but a new paradigm of honor in which to walk with pride and a sense of responsibility.</p>
<p>In my home state of Pennsylvania, Marriage Equality has now just dawned (my husband and I are fully legal…</p>
<p>Bo'matun for this beautiful post!! I remember the first time I learned about Two-Spirit individuals. How completely empowering that was to know that (many of) my Native relatives did not see me as an abomination, as a gay man! With that new perspective, "coming out" is not something to fear, but a new paradigm of honor in which to walk with pride and a sense of responsibility.</p>
<p>In my home state of Pennsylvania, Marriage Equality has now just dawned (my husband and I are fully legal now)! It has been in my mind to find ways to create same-sex marriage ceremonies that intentionally honor our two-spirit ones, drawing from our Taino traditions and legends.</p>
<p>Any thoughts along those lines would be very welcome from you, my relatives.</p>
<p>Very grateful,</p>
<p>Jeffry Owl, Beike of Pittsburgh Caney Circle</p>
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