Nanu,

thanks for the site guidance...works fine now.

R-

Nanu, I just want to add your art and bead work are wonderful. I would love to be able to bead. I have had some the best try and teach me but I just can't catch on. Again thank you for your kind words and friendship.

Taino Ti Nanu
Thank you for the nice compliments! I love that song too. It's better then another classic Maria song: "How do you solve a problem like Maria" :)
Painting feathers, there is a processyou have to go through. First I steam them to make sure there are no holes or splits.. This is optional but is a way to try and repair splits. Then I spray the feathers with an acrylic spray sealant. Next I use gesso to create a canvas then I paint with acrylic "heavy body" The more detailed the subject the longer it takes, as you paint in layers. OK there you have it. I will be finishing up some humming birds and I am starting an owl soon.. Thanks Nanu,
Maria

Thanks, Nanu, I do.

yea I do florida sometimes, I was headlady at AIA in Orlando in 06, came out in my Taino Regailia and up here in Ga. this year at Stone Mountain and Indian Springs never did Chambers, heard lots about it but never went several of my friends go occassionaly I beleive Tommy Wildcatt told me he goes to perform and Arvel Bird has perform there too! and Yonah Taylor and the All Nation Drum has gone also...
I will see about coming up.
Hey did you know about the 8,000 Drum Gathering-several of our Taino elders will be here in March check out the blog about it...

Mama Mia, I'm Howling at the moon right now. I'm flabbergasted, good thing I was sitting down.

What size beads did you use ?

How wide is the Bracelet ?

I'm looking to scan the designs that I have on graph paper

I will share them with the community

Thank You very much

Thank you for adding me to the network. Ahiahude (blessings).

I wish I could bead, I gonna try to learn. I have some ideas for rosettes
The lesson plan works for loomwork also. Give it to your Moms maybe she can do something. I want to share these designs with the pueblo. I would love to see the pueblo carry on with matilde perez de silva's & Ray Caracoli's work. Taino Restoration in effect!!!

Hope it Brightens your Day!!!

I graph it by eye, Everything is hand stiched, I'll check out that program cuz I need some help lol

Adapted from the Beaded Cemi developed by tainoray, embroidery by Brooke

Taino ti Nanu

Can you post pictures of your Mom's beadwork ?

Also has she ever worked with designs developed by Matilde Perez de Silva ?

I eagerly await your response

Caracoli

Just droppin' by your neck of the woods to say "TAU TI", thanking you for stopping by and ...

Me alegro que te haya gustado ver las fotos . Tengo que decirte que lo tiene bien cuidado Pero no asi con Caguana.Pero sigo en mis busquedad de mejora la mentalidades de otro que no saben loque hay en estos yacimiento ,conciencia de que tenemos que cuidarlo.Hay una rica historia y sobre todo un arte que es lo que yo persigo que se respecte.

By the way I knew there were more censoring. I was just stating that this one. I wanted to give an actuall name of the conquistador that king fernand ordered.

Hey nanu, thanx for you comment. Intersting in your theory of my last name. I will look into it. I never thought of it like that. But like you said they might have givin themeslevs last names but that doest mean they mixed. We can not assume that every body is an amixture of everything that mirgrated to cibao or the other island. I dont know evry bodly family tree to assume that. So it does make me a bit mad when i see people assuming these things.

But in regards to lynn she is right. I mean even dna strand in cibao region confirms that we were unmixed untill recently. Whats not to say they are still full blooded in those regions. I know we both disagree with this one. But no one change my mind about this untill I have proof. So far dna is proving me right. I know enriquillo took over 4,000 taino people into the mountains but I agree with lyn. I am sure there people in hiding. Some who helped enriquillo and some who were not even slaves.

So far I have been able to trace my family back on both side 9 genraations. my parents come from the same village. No euro deccendant. Its easy for me cause many of my reletive lived to be over 100yo. My great grand father was 108 when he passed and his great grand father died at over 100 yo to and before thm. The more I research my history the more indian comes out. Like I posted before. Spanish names and middle names were not used. So far I have been able to to see where the last name were introduced. That will be hard to find. Cause I dont live in DR and they probably dont keep good records.



"What the Bleep do we know?"" Is this in anctuall movie?

Sure nanu. I was not stating that you jumped in. I was just excusing myself. Cause even though I am still a gentlman.

There were more than one census taken in the 16th century. There were census for encomiendas and repartimientos; others were brought about by law suits and complaints, governmental re-checking and so on.

You don't need to know the name of something to be able to count it. Have you ever counted stars? I have and I only know maybe one or two constellations at best, doesn't mean I cannot count them.

The names were changed to exaggerate the loss of natives and thus the plantation workforce. This in turn justified the ever growing demand for black african slaves. The crown had to approve of this endowment, so there must be just cause for the expense. To justify their need, the natives and those who were mixed were classified according to behavior. Indian women who married spanish men, took on spanish names and behaviors were classified as spanish, mestizos who were raised spanish, had been recognized by their fathers (spanish names)owned property and their own slaves were considered spanish... This can go on... do you see my point? With every indian classified as spanish opened the door to request an african slave.

Consider that a census in 1530 had 200+ "indians" and 700 "others" while a census in 1545 had 5,125+ "indians" and no "others".

Many natives ran away to the mountains. I believe these folk are the same you base your opinion with regards to the possibilities of pure blooded tainos today. Lynn Guitar said it beautifully : "How do you count people who are hiding from you?" If they were never counted, they should never have received a spanish name. The undeniable eventuality is that our people mixed, including to the point of castillianizing their names, changing their names to spanish to fit in.

Consider you own name- Altamonte- high mountain.

With regards to Wattles- he lived in the late 1800's, so it is almost assured you will find much christianization and old fashioned ideas in his writing. Bear that in mind as you read him, he was a man of his time.

You could probably borrow "What the Bleep do we know?" from Netflix, Blockbuster or even your local library!

And regarding the immature discussion :
"I know the discussion is very imature. But I think that if people want to learn about present day taino they need to come with respect. If i wanted to learn about ireland and would go to a ireland site I would ask respecitvly. So because of that I didnt see you had posted your comment on my page."

I have reserved my comments on these and withheld posting anything, anywhere, regarding them, so I am not sure what post you are referring to with regards to this....

Have a great day Juan and hope to hear from you soon.

Nanu