Taino Ti

Just click on events on the top of the page

Sorry, never have worked for them.

oh ok Hahom (thanx)

Juan, regarding the book debunking Asian origin- I cannot say that it actually "debunks" anything. What it does is offer an interesting point of view that is rarely considered, that of the Native American. He offers native stories that describe events that occurred (according to scientists) before any human habitation. There are other points he makes that also discredit current scientific thought...

And as for physical comparisons - a rash can look like cancer but it doesn't make them the same thing. I am more from the school of thought that we don't have and won't get all the answers we want. Science makes itself look like it can but turns out to be the biggest religion of all...

Of course that is just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions. ;-)

Have a great day, Juan. And let me know what you thing of the book...

I've heard about that Irving Rouse book before I will try to fin it, and read it! tankx!

Well thankyou!
The book called "arqueologia prehistorica" is olny in spanish and I dont know if you can fin it in the internet 'cause I allready tried to get another copy for my friend this book is really good if you like to read about archeology and it randomly talks about the mithology and healing rituals. this book is also really old (1972) and my brother randomly foun it in a garbage can in th street when he went in vacation to santo domingo and he gave it to me because he knows I love the taino culture and archeology.
its a funny story!

yeah...go to National Geographic website,and look for The Genographic Project"-read,then you'll see"purchase kit"-it is 99. for each parent-so 200 for you,or have your siste do one,and you do father's,and you'll have the complete picture!You have a beautiful family!Take care,
Aku Turey

Yes,33%is A WHOLE THIRD- with concentrations of 75% in Camaguey Cuba,and slightly lower in Eastern!The African is higher-45% as an average."Haplogroup A"..I am not an expert either,but there are for Native DNA:A,B,C,D,and some say some other which I don't remember...Eskimos are almost exclusive A...Yucatec Mexican,A...Eastern USA,"A"...Venezuela-Brazil,B and C.There ARE found a's among Arawaks,but it;s much less frequent than in the Yucatan people.,etc.That's why,at one point,I was a bit upset because the study in Cuba didn't find B,C,only in the ancient bodies od dead Tainos and Ciboney...same applies in P.R.-of course more people need to be tested,but it does show that more MAYA came than we expected,and more Cherokee,Florida Indians,etc. Still figuring it out!

Gracias Juan, pues Ruben me ha comentado sobre ti pues si debe ser el idioma quechua, es verdad Rubén le gusta mucho nuestros orígenes y creo que le gusta saber mucho sobre los indigenas americanos, pues no se nada de ingles por esa razón escribo solo en español, creo que Ruben ayudará a comunicarnos.

I hear you bro,but still,33% ia Cuba,in general with 75%!!!or so in Camaguey(Where my mom is from)and Eastern CubaI'm talking MtDNA-from the females-so even if there is only 2-3% of the male Y,still,it shows up nicely!cause those females had Taino Fathers!Yes,it ONLY comes from my Mom's side,as my Dad was only born in Cuba,and his Dad AND mom came to Cuba.The genetics decided to show fairly strong in me,what can I tell you?!-and I do have the DNA test to prove it,too.=-"Haplogroup A".Hey,do you want to open up a Casino?!

Juan,

I've never claimed to have talked to everyone in the DR. I would never make such a rediculous statement. But remember, full-blooded means that 100% of both the mother's and father's blood is Taino or indigenous. That is very hard to do, especially after 500 years of colonization. I have no doubts that part of the culture still survives, and that many people are 100% culturally indigenous, but if you run the math it is very hard to maintain 100% biological full-blood.

I hope you don't think I am being rude or doubtful. But also, don't take what I have said out of context or out of its logical realm. I'm simply stating what I saw, learned, and know. Nothing more or nothing less. I always hope I am wrong... I love the DR and its people (of all ancestry): one thing I learned from living in the Chaucuay and other little villages was that blood meant little when compared to one's heart.

Enriquillo's name was actually "WAROKUYA". As boy, he survived the "ANACAONA" massacre by hiding under the body of his dead father. He was raised by Spaniards as a slave, but little did they know that because of his matrilinal lineage, he was dstined to become a "KASIKE" by birthright!!! In his teen years, he showed his rebellion to his captors, but he did develop a trust with one man in particular: Bartolome de las Casas. De las Casas was actually the only white man he EVER trusted. In his rebellion, he stratred what is now known as "Guerilla Warfare" against them, which was something never known to the Conquistadors. After some time, the Spaniards said they couldn't put up with the "Hit and Run" tactics of the "Indios", so they send de las Casas to talk to Enriquillo. Enriquillo told de las Casas that he would come from the mountains with him to toalk peace with the Spaniards alone. If he wasn't back by a certain time, his warriors would continue the war. de las Casas agreed. When the meeting took place, Enriquillo told the Spaniards that the peace will always be honored as long as they, "...never follow my footseps, or ever follow me and my people wherever we go!!!" The Spaniards agreed, and that is the first treaty ever recorded betweeen the people of the "New World", and the Native People. It happened in the islan of "BOHIO", present day "Hispaniola" in the year 1533. The Spaniards surprisingly did not follow them, and the Natives settled in present day "BAHORUCO". Many Dominicans can tell you that there are people from that region that "...don't normally mingle with the rest of the people after working or shopping, and they return back to their villages". Somehow, history books say that the people that met Columbus in 1492 were ALL wiped out 50 years after his arrival. Enriquillo took 4,000 men, women, and children to that region. You do the math and reasoning, especially since they were NOT persecuted again, and what local people in those regions say today!!! MORE TO COME!!!

Juan,how are you,brother?I am fine,just struggle with poverty often!I thank you for your information...The "Casino Owner"reference to me in the suit picture,made me laugh!-that's funny,man!,cause you're right,I do look like one-I never thought of that!I didn't know my guy Fidel was 1/2 Taino-I thought he was straight-up "Gallego"...that's good,let's see with Obama,when he lifts the Embargo,so I can easily go to Cuba and be with my relatives...I'm sure I'd stay.Those pure Tainos maybe stayed among themselves mostly,and didn't mix with the genaral population,so if they were tested,for sure there would be "Y"dna!My father's father came from the Canarias,so no Taino"Y" from his side,only from my mom's side-ain't it so good to be part Taino?!=it feels great,I am very proud,and I also like that Cubans are taught that we are Cubans-all of us,not just white or black,or red...the problem though is that tended to obscure the Taino part..it's easy to see black and white,harder for the red or Mestizo-also,the "rightful"original/"owner's" of Cuba would be the Natives-so l"let's avoid a re-claim to the land,or special rights by taking away their identity" !!-that's the destructive part of the "we're all Cuban"mentality.I personally like,"We're all Caribbean",I hope to see that identification strengthen!Take care my friend,Frank Aku Turey

I'm so glad to hear from you, and believe me, there's no neeed to apologize for the lenght of your reply!!! As far as the history of GUAROKUYA (Enriquillo), there's much to be said. I will share more of that for sure very soon. As far as that beautiful woman on pic 15 and the story of what happened to her, I am so truly sorry to hear that!!! I see a beautiful, vibrant Taino sister who left this world much too soon!!! As sad as this may be, Just like our anscestors have always believed, we must learn what teachings come behind that. My lineage is that of a WARIBO (warrior) and a Behike (shaman). If you look closely at the pic I have of my parents, you can closely see what their individual medicine was in either comparison. You and your family have much to be proud of. No one will EVER take that away from you as long as you guard that legacy!!! DA AK'ABO TO KA, DA TIAO!!! ( I am beside you, my brother!!!)

Hey Juan,
I do speak macushi and although we can speak using macushi words only there are many english words now being inserted into our sentences -most of the time because those words mights not have a place in the macushi language...eg...aeroplane, bicycle, sorry, thank you....etc
do you speak Taino?
Kawe

I just cought a glimpse of the 22 pics you have on your slide. Even if you wanted to, there's NO WAY you can possibly deny to me your Native roots. These are some of the most stricking and beautiful family pics I've seen here so far and the pic that truly captured me were pics number 1,15, and 22. They speak volumes to me, and they sure speak volumes about you!!! DA ITA BUKIA KA DA GUAITIAO, O DA JAYONA KA!!! (I know you're my brother, and I am proud!!!)

Great to hear from you!!!...and yes, let's see who would actually argue withthe point that full blooded Tainos may still be around!!! I can tell you about myself; My father was 3/4 Taino, 1/4 Spaniard. My mother was 50/50 Taino and Spaniard. Doing the math, that makes me 2/3 Taino, 1/3 Spaniard. The Spaniards from my roots were of aristocratic descent, tall, light skinned, blue eyes, with the "Nordic" look. The rest were "Native" In my family background (Which I've researched for genetations) has no African heritage. Many of my relatives look like they were plucked out of a Southwest Indian Reservation. Others look like they were brought in from either Germany or Scandinavia. Any doubts, refer to my "Brother from another Mother" Kacian, who lives in Boriken and knows many of my realatives personally!!! He and I have also been in regions in Boriken such as the Central Interior Areas such as Coamo, Barranquitas, Aibonito, Utuado, Jayuya, and our last traditional bastion known as Maricao, where we've encountered many people who have shared stories with us about their Native lineage and nothing else. The same exists in Kiskeya in the regoin of Bahoruco, where the present day descendants of "Enriquillo's" people live. (As me about that history), and Eastern Cuba in the regoin ofBaracoa. Lots to tell about. Jorge Estevez can confirm!!!

hey Juan,
No..I'm not Colombian. I have a friend however whose friend has just come back from the Amazon who has been 'studying' the indigenous - it will be very interesting to meet him....I meet him this weekend if all goes well.
Kawe

No, it does not. It focuses on the scientific explanation for prehistoric America while ignoring oral tradition.

Here is the description in Amazon

I am almost done reading it and it has been a pleasure.