What do you need to have to be considered a Taino?

[Bryan Burgos]

What is a modern taino? which characteristics will make somebody a taino(a)? Any help getting this point clear will be really appreciated.

Bryan

[Bryan Burgos]

Ah y olvidate de escribir mas en este blog por que los indios no tenian electricidad!

[Bryan Burgos]

ok, asi que fisicamente debes tener algunos rasgos caracteristicos de la herencia taina...estoy de acuerdo. Entonces aquellos que por razones de genetica no tienen razgos tainos visibles pero si algun % de DNA taino tambien podrian ser aceptados dentro del nuevo movimiento, ok eso suena aceptable. Ahora, los que por razones desconocidas aun para ellos mismos, se sienten atraidos a la cultura indigena, ya sea por que han trabajado en algun proyecto arqueologico o por influencias que no se pueden explicar podrian ser hijos adoptivos de la nacion indigena? Yo creo que este movimiento debe apuntar hacia la educacion y la resureccion de nuestras tradiciones indigenas en estos tiempos modernos, no solo bailando en tapa rabos en una plaza sino haciendo coleccion de todos los datos y conocimientos recolectados para poder entender cada una de esas tradiciones y creencias que nos definen como cultura indigena. Tu puedes parecerte a Guarionex o Guanina y hasta bailar al ritmo de tambores to' el dia bajo el sol y no tener idea del significado de lo que estas haciendo. Puedes ser blanco de ojos azules y crear las artesanias mas historicamente y cientificamente correctas que hasta se puedan confundir con las originales. Asi que los que realmente piensan que este movimiento se trata de agrupar a quienes mas fisicamente se parescan a los indios originales entonces deben agruparce to'itos y vivir en una joyanca por un rio en PR y comenzar a construir plazas y bohios.... pero olvidate del dvd player, el microhondas o aire acondicionado. Mas si educamos y revivimos las tradiciones y creencias entonces haremos honor a nuestros antepasados y no los proyectaremos como gente que se la pasaba bailando semi-desnudas y comiendo to'el dia en el rio o la playa (aunque estoy seguro que algun taino eso era lo que hacia to' el dia.....eso quisiera hacer yo hehehe). Amen!

[Iris Antongiorgi Concepcion]

Saber de donde eres quien eres es bueno saber.Pero yo tengo muchas raices que quisiera conocer,Africana ,India, Corsega,Espanola, Mire que mezcla. Pero las llevo con orgullo porque de alli son mis raices, costumbres, historia, tradiciones. Por ahora estuve en la de los espanol y corcega .Pero estoy empenada en las de los Tainos.Ver que se saquea y no se respecta esto no me agrada. La historia tiene que ser fiel y respectada . Asi que estoy tratando de ver como estan estos yacimientos ya fui a caguana en Utuado Tengo information de Ponce -Tibet. Ya pronto infromo

[Ivy]

Beautiful words to live by...

[Ivy]

This is pure bullshit

[Caracoli]

Taino Ti

I understand where all of you are coming from and though I disagree I finally realize that

"ITS A TAINO NATIVE THING AND YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND"

Sherrif Caracoli and Deputy Brooke

[Ivy]

Thank you, Ruben, and please don't feel like you need to prove yourself to anyone, because you could easily do the same thing to all of us here.

[Ivy]

WOW. I can't believe how much hostility there is on this site! This is supposed to be a place for indigenous and non-indigenous people alike to connect and discuss things like culture, history, family, customs and traditions and yes, DNA, too. Of course there are going to be disagreements, that is expected, but why do we all feel the need to verify someone else's authenticity? If someone considers themselves to be an "Indian", through spirit, through culture, or through bloodlines, then so be it. When did we all become the "Indian police"? And personally, I don't feel the least bit offended (according to Brooke then I must not be a "real indian") that my family chose to have a DNA test to show what percentage of Taino blood we have. If anything, it confirmed to me what I have always felt. Some people have had the privilege of being raised with their "Indian" culture and customs, and some have not. So there's nothing wrong with doing this type of research, in fact I encourage it because I'm sure that there are a lot of people who do in fact have indigenous blood and don't even know it. So if a test is what it takes for that person to connect with that part of themselves, then that's a beautiful thing. I acknowledge and embrace all of my ancestry, the Taino, the Spanish, the Filipino (my mother was born in Manila) and possibly the African, which hasn't been proven as of yet. So who is anybody to say that I am not Taino when I am, and who am I to say that anybody isn't (whether they technically are or aren't)? What matters is the fact that we all realize that the Taino are NOT extinct as we are told, and that we keep our culture alive.

[Juan Almonte]

Ruben,

Mexican indain grandmother. Would you know from what part or tribe. mexico is pretty big. Poeple just think of the mayans. But there are other tribes too. On top of that many of the apache got pushed down too during colonazation.

How many markers did the test that you took have? I know the more markers the more expensive it can bee.

[Juan Almonte]

ruben,

You know I have been your number one fan.

But this comment "My grand-grand mother who was Mexican was part-Indian"

Has ??????????? all over it. Why didnt you say that before. How come now you saying that.

To me this is offensive. Many poeple try to the same above thing but then they will deny the real indians. That is wrong.

If you are right why did you not mentione this before.?